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MijnSchatjeDobermans Litter Box

mslvrfx — Sun, 08 Nov 2009 10:33:33 CST

My first Litter of the year Born Oct. 24 2009
AKC full Registration. $650 Limited $550
Dam is Yogi's Sweet Sasha Blue - Sire is Thor's White Lightening

Sasha and 9 babies
Blacks and Creams, males and females.
Blacks $650 full AKC Reg. Creams $975
1 Black female ,2 Cream females and 3 cream males only left.

Sasha and babies 8 days old. Each Over 2# already

If your interested in a puppy from Sasha copy and paste application for adoption
in email or word program and email to me at mijnschatjedobermans@ctvea.net

Blue collar Male sold John Taylor,Tuscaloosa,Al.

Little man sold Delicia Donaldson, Lanham,Maryland....Red Collar Sold Tab & Robbin Barkley Summerville Al.

View our Health Guarantee

View our Sales Contract

We take cash, Pay Pal, Wal-Mart Money Grams, & Western Union Money Grams only.
Pay pal, mijnschatjedobermans@ctvea.net

Because we care about our babies we offer Personal Door to
Door Transport in 30 eastern states. As well as Personally
Flying the pup to you as a carry on through Continental Air
or Air Tran. We do ship Continental Dog also.
For Shipping info click Link below

To see pups that may be available from Mijnpunkins Dobermans

To see pups that may be available from JW Rocks Dobermans

To see pups that may be available from MijnAmy's Dobermans

Below see some of our past pups.
Pups from Sasha first litter
Samford at 10 months old

Indy at 10 months old. (on right)

Marlie Kae at 11 months old

The Animal Rescue Site is having trouble getting enough

people to click on it daily to meet their quota of getting free food

donated every day to abused and neglected animals.

It takes less than a minute to go to their site and click on the purple

box "fund food for animals" for free. This doesn't cost you a thing. Their

corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate

food to abandoned/neglected animals in exchange for advertising.

Here's the web site! Pass it along to people you know.

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com

Return home

MijnAmy's Dobermans

mslvrfx — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 19:57:27 CST

This is my Freya and I. She is 22 months old, 78# & 27" tall

This is Loki the Sire of her babies 2 1/2 years old, 88# 29"

Puppies Due around Dec. 5th 2009
Will be ready to go to new homes Middle of Jan.
Waiting list started. If you wish to be put on the waiting list email me at
mijnschatjedobermans@ctvea.net
When born I will email you. It will be first deposit gets first pick and so on.
Accepting $25NR pre-birth good faith deposits on 4 pups only prior to birth with balanceof $175 due within 48 hours of notification of birth.

PreBirth deposits
Naleta Hurt. Black female
Tasha A Chambers ,red or fawn female

Waiting list
Andrew Newcomb, Black male
Krystle Hinton, color open.
Candace Clark, Red or Blue Male
Sally Adams, Laurel Ms. color open

We take cash, Pay Pal, Wal-Mart Money Grams, & Western Union Money Grams only.
Pay pal, mijnschatjedobermans@ctvea.net

MijnPunkins Dobermans Litter Box

mslvrfx — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:22:48 CST

We take Cash, Pay Pal, Wal-Mart Money Grams, & Western Union Money Grams only.
Pay pal, mijnschatjedobermans@ctvea.net

All puppies sold as of 11/6/2009 from Blackies babies.
To see Puppies available from Sasha click

Puppies Born from Blackie
August 25. Sire Loki's Dream This is her first litter.
Blackie is 65# 25 1/2" tall,Phantom Bloodlines. Loki is 88# 29" tall. German Lines

Ares (sold Samual & Lindsay McCoy, Notasulga Al.

Apollo 8 weeks Sold Christa Waite I will have 2 homes.Florida in winter and NY in summer

Bellona 8#10oz(Sold Asher Michon, RobertsDale Al.)Demeter 8#10oz(sold Dylan &Lauren,Carrolton,Ga)

Hermes 8#15oz(sold)Mohammad,Cambridge, Mass............. Loki Jr. 9#(sold Lynette Cox. Duryea Pa.)

Blue Zues 9#10oz (sold Sterling Aycock,Jewell Ga. _ _Hera 8#6oz (Sold Pierre Moore Lithonia Ga.)

Zeus 9#10oz(Sold James Moore Kissemee Fl)____Aphrodite 8#2oz (Sold Amy Carr Decauter,Al.)

Marlo 10#10oz (Sold Michael Phillips Virginia Beach Va.)

Video of pups at 4 1/2 weeks of age.

To see pics of past pups we have produced at varying ages you can go to
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=67535&id=843467318&l=a532793524

Testimonials
References & comments from Previous Buyers

From Michelle in NC
I would highly recommend purchasing a puppy from Dalene's Sheba. I have a beautiful big blue male pup of her's
who is now a year old. He is presently at 84# and approximately 26 " tall. He has a wonderful disposition and gets

along great with my other dog and my Grandbaby. He was worth the drive to Alabama to get him.

Michelle M Brahosky

mbrahosky@ec.rr.com

From Kevin in McDonough,Ga
I purchased 2 pups from Dalene & Family, From Freya the Charmed one. They are wonderful.
I am after all these years in love again wonderful pups smart and full of spirit.
I would recommend purchasing a pup from them. They are very big pups for 6 weeks.
They really love them and it shows.
Kevin Plageman. From Georgia.

From Scott in Gadsen,Al.
We are all so happy w/ Delila…. She’s seems happy on a pallet at my feet, under my desk, during work and the kids stop and get her
at 3. She wakes Hunter up at daybreak by attacking his hair… Thanks again, Skipper family. Gadsen, Al.

The following Testimonial is from a Veternarian's Son, in Dix Hills NY.
My name is Mitch and I live in Long Island New York. We recently purchased a puppy from Dalene & Michaelene. As the son of a veternarian and a lover for dobies, never in my life have I met a lady that superseded my love . Not only do I have a sweet, loving nugget , but Michaelene was the epitome of a pleasure to deal with. She was accommodating and very caring until i received my pup . I actually did not think she would give her to me until the pup was comfortable with me . Within an hour I got my baby, Thanks Michaelene , there should be more people like you.
And you can always email her for questions after your baby comes home.
Mitch from new york,

From Al in Enterprise Al.

Dear Michaelene & Dalene

We really love our puppies.They are wonderful puppies and are as healthy as can be. They have a weekly visit with our vet ( he is our friend)his clinic only handles cats and dogs and both vets are of the greatest reputation, both are Auburn graduates, one is 52 and the other is 30 years old. Jack and Jill are very well behaved, they have not bit into anything that was not their toys, the walk together and are completely housed trained (they both have extra large crates with three side doors.the coats are magnificent, the vets says they are the best they have seen. They go out and play three times a day, and run around the back yard (about 2 and half acres) and love to look at the lake, probably will go swimming this summer. They are absolutely a wonderful addition to our family "pack".

Al Guzman

From Gary in Suwanee Ga.

Dalene is a very good breeder i couldnt ask for any more information. she gave me a good selection of doberman puppy to choose from, she made sure they were in top shape before selling them, she also showed me proof that the puppy was in top shape! when i went to actually get the dog i was supplied with alot of information and sample food. As for the dogs. i was able to meet and pet the parents they were very kind! and as for my new family member anubis, hes very funny and outgoing im very happy with the business. thank you very much Dalene!

Gary

For puppies from MijnSchatjeDobermans that might be available

For puppies from JWRocks Dobermans that might be available

The Animal Rescue Site is having trouble getting enough

people to click on it daily to meet their quota of getting free food

donated every day to abused and neglected animals.

It takes less than a minute to go to their site and click on the purple

box "fund food for animals" for free. This doesn't cost you a thing. Their

corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate

food to abandoned/neglected animals in exchange for advertising.

Here's the web site! Pass it along to people you know.

http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com

LALICHKA MICCA SCENEA /cherelyn blackburn owner

whitedobees — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 14:02:19 CST

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INDEPENDENCE DAY DE VITO 2007 / cherelyn blackburn owner

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THOR'S SWEET PRINCESS JASLENE / cherelyn blackburn owner

whitedobees — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:59:34 CST

Princess at 11 months old.

Some pictures of me.

My newest little buddy and My new love Devito. He loves me

I am one hot chick just check it out, are we ready to ride yet mum?

This is my mom and dad below
Yogi's Sweet Sasha Blue.Blue/Tan
Owner Michaelene

Thors White Lightening
Cream/White
Owner Michaelene

OROMEO ROMEO WHEREFORE ARTTHOU ROMEO / cherelyn blackburn owner

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JULIET HOPEFUL LADY OF HIS EARTH / cherelyn blackburn owner

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BEAUTY OF HOLINESS IS THE BEAUTY OF CONSERCRATION / cherelyn blackburn owner

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CHERELYN BLACKBURN FAMILY OF HER DOBERMANS OF WHITEDOBEES

whitedobees — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:48:40 CST

WHITEDOBEES@AOL.COMMY NAME IS CHERELYN BLACKBURN, ..
YOU CAN VISIT US AT http://myspace.com/zfactorwhitedobees
Sweet Isabella Lola --------------------------------------------- Cherelyn, Devito & Romeo

Isabella Lola, Devito & Fat Cat ---------------------------------Nadja sitting on the houseboat

Isabella had her ears done ,sitting at the houseboat-------------ROMEO sitting on his favorite blanket

Meshka _at my son home_________________________________Devito AT THE HOUSEBOAT

Devito_____________________________________Isabella after ears crop.

Nadja _____________________________________DEVITO, GARY, FATCAT AND ROMEO

Baby ROMEO--------------------------------------------------Isabella Lola as baby santa helper -----------------Princess Jaslene 7 weeks

Devito & Princess Jaslene 6 weeks------------Devito---------------------------------------Princess Jaslene 7 weeks

White Dobermans the 5th color

mslvrfx — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:31:37 CST

WHITE DOBERMANS: With all due respect for the Doberman Pinscher Club of America (DPCA) I am well aware of their position regarding "white"/"albino" 'z' factored Dobermans,and As responsible breeder and 'dog-lover' I have decided to own and breed the white. Tho I myself am breeding for the Cream color. The Cream Dobermans do have pigment in there coat. Myself and fellow breeders have found them to be the 5th color of Doberman not 'albino' every bit the loving"Doberman" as the other colors (black, red, fawn &blue). We have not encountered the issues presented by the Club members.I believe the buyer should decide for their self. As does the DPCA have a right to their opinions, to a potential buyer with questions regarding white dobermans, or Cream Dobermans please review the opinions of the DPCA or feel free to ask me or any of the Quality Cream/ White Breeders about there experiences with the Cream/White Dobermans.

There is a Club for the White Dobermans, it is called the Doberman Pinscher Alliance of America or DPAA
the DPAA is for all 5 colors not just white and you don't have to own a white to belong. You hear people say that Whites can not be registered and they cannot show. Well they are wrong. They can be registered and they can show in many area's, And there are Champion Whites as well as Champion WZ registered dogs. DPAA Titles Her you will see some beautiful White Dobermans doing what they do best. Just like any other color Doberman.

Now the Doberman is a dog that was created from many breeds of dogs.that's not much more than 100 years old. It was developed in the late 1880's by Herr Louis Dobermann, who, as the tale goes, was a Tax Collector and Dog Catcher in his town among other things. He had many breeds at his disposal to "create" his "perfect dog". Some of the breeds used it is speculated are,The Weimaraner, the Greyhound, the Manchester Terrier, Thuringian Shepherds, German Shepherds, German Pinschers, Great Danes, German Short Haired Pointers, and early Rottweilers and French Beauceron. But it is not known for positive which all dogs were used. Just speculation. Ok lets look at these dogs, The Greyhound, originated in England introduced by USA breeders into the US gene pool around 1908, they come in many colors orange, black, white, fawn, or a roan of these colors with or without white markings. Weimaraner, originated in Germany was finally brought to America in 1929, a distinctive gray color which can range from silver to mouse-colored (beige or tan toned). The skin is flesh-toned rather than white or black. Manchester Terrier,originated in England typical color is Black & Tan, German Shepherds, come in a variety of colors including solid black, grey, brown, and yellow, tricolor (black, white, and brown or red), or sable (black and red, silver, or tan) German Pinschers ,originated in Germany in the 1600's, they come in a variety of colors also including, black with tan markings; other possible colors are red, fawn, and brown with yellow markings. Solid black and ‘salt and pepper’ varieties existed in the early 20th century.Great Danes, originated in Germany also colors were many including fawn (gold with a black mask, possible black ears and tail tip), brindle (gold with a black stripe pattern), steel blue, glossy black, ‘Harlequin’ (white with black patches), and ‘Mantle’ or ‘Boston’ (black with white muzzle, chest, and tail tip). White and blue merle Great Danes occur but are not accepted by most standards. German Short Haired Pointers, Originated in Germany resulting from careful crosses in the 17th century of the Spanish Pointer, Foxhound, Italian Pointer, and Hannover Hound. Colors are liver (dark brown) with possible white, brown, or yellow markings. Some standards allow black or black and white. Rottweilers, originated in the Roman Empire, it's colors black with brown markings with white on the chest. Beauceron originated in France, Colors can be black and tan or harlequin with patches of grey, black, and tan. Thuringian Shepherds originated in Northern and Central Germany in the 1800's which were direct descendents of wolves. (Jim in New Jersey has DOCUMENTED PROOF that MORE THAN HALF OF THE FIRST 10 SIEGER’S WERE DESCENDENTS OF WOLVES!)

Ok now that you have all these colors and coat types etc.You can see that White is in several of the breeds as well as Yellow, Gold, Silver,Salt and Pepper, Tan, and more. Who is to say that the White or Cream is not a true color???? As the Cream could be called Yellow or Gold. If these colors were used to Create the Doberman then those colors are not a defect in my book.

Stop and think about this. From what little I have been able to find in reguards to testing, If you were taken and put in a cage and poked and prodded and tested for god knows how long and probably fed just plain ole dry dog food what would your condition be. Plus there were 2 dogs that were tested,they were sisters that were inbred so what kind of results do you expect to get.And the puppies they produced were black not white. When they talk about cancer in whites they forget to tell you that 50% of all dogs die of cancer. And that is not just in the Doberman breed that is in all breeds. That was a scientific study I found on the internet. So who is kidding who. All dogs may have skin problems of some sort not just the White Doberman. I have owned Reds and Blacks that had skin issues. It is not just the Whites that may have these problems as the DPCA would like you to believe. I have owned German Shepards that had skin issue's. I once owned a St.Bernard that got hot spots. I had a Sharpei that had skin trouble. So skin problems have nothing to do with the color of the doberman only. As of July 1 2009 I have had my Creams going on 2 years and have not had one bit of trouble in skin, hair, eyes, ears or anything else.

Lysa has a wonderful page. She does genetics and has studied the doberman for many many years. In talking with her the first time I learned a lot in just the short time. She wrote an article on Debunking the DPCA. This article was published . She has also informed me that the white doberman can be shown in another country. I will have to ask again which country. But in the US they can be shown in all but Conformation. She has information on the testing and all that the DPCA did and in it it states that 2 bitche's were bred and had 17 pups all were black and tan. Now what does black and tan pups have to do with white??? They claim to have had to put most of the pups down from aggression. But these were not white pups these were black and tan. They are trying to hide who was bred to who and what all the results they supposedly came up with. I will try to get the articles and get them posted. But I ask anyone out there if you have the info that shows white were bred and whites were born and have the dates and AKC # to prove this then bring it on.. We would be more than happy to see your proof that the whites have the problems.

It was suggested that "albino" (white) Dobermans may have a mutation in tyrosinase,since that is the cause of many types of albinism in humans and mice. However,in a recenlty completed study, the entire coding sequence of TYR was normal insuch Dobermans (GenBank AY336053) and also in blue and Isabella (fawn)Doberman Pinschers. These results suggest that the P gene may be the cause of this albinism. We did find that these same Isabella and red Dobermans were both homozygous for the TYRP1 proline deletion mutation indicating both are actually brown in base color. (As published in the PinscherPatter, Dec. 2004)

Another lady that has researched the Whites extensively had this posted on her website which has now been lost as geocities has gone down.But I have copied this info to a program and saved it.

I researched and read all the info I could find on the net about White Dobermans before buying my first one. There are a lot of horror stories out there but most of them are from inbred dogs if the truth be known. By Breeding in good Blood lines the White Doberman can be improved just like they do with any other dog.How do you think the Doberman was created??It was created using many dogs of different breeds.Once created they were inbred to get the same kind of dog produced. And so they had problems which is to be expected. You breed to improve using good Bloodlines and that's what we the Cream/White Breeders of this website are doing . On this page you will see some wonderful White & Cream/White Dobermans. Some with some great European CH Bloodlines, some with great American CH Bloodlines. And some great Euro/American cross CH Bloodlines. The first whites may have had problems because people had to inbreed to get the whites but over the years they have been improved upon with good Bloodlines. And inbreeding is no longer a strong factor. Not with a good breeder anyway. But beware there are breeders out there that do inbreed. And not just the whites but coloreds as well. Stay away from any inbred dog.

Some more info that I have found on Albinism comes from http://www.messybeast.com/albinism/albino-index.htm
This is some of what it tells and there are a lot of links on there page.

Albinism is due to various gene mutations that affect the production of normal pigmentation. True (amelanistic) albinos lack melanin and are white with no markings and with unpigmented pink eyes. Partial (blue-eyed) albinos have some residual pigmentation. There are various degrees of patchy albinism (piebaldism) due to localised mutations in skin cells. Temperature dependent albinos have residual colour on cooler parts of the body i.e. Siamese cats where pigment develops on the head, tail and legs, but not on the warmer parts of the body. Bluish-grey anerythristic albinos lack the red colour. Axanthic albinos lack the yellow colour. The actual colour and pattern of these animal depends on what other colours are in the pattern. Tyrosinase-negative albinos lack tyrosinase (an enzyme which synthesises melanin) in their cells; this usually produces a pale yellowish or cream animal with pink-eyes. The more common Tyrosinase Positive albino cannot synthesise melanin, but can synthesise tyrosinase, giving a fawn or lavender (platinum) colour. Leucism is often mistaken for albinism. Leucistic animals, such as white lions, are white or very pale, with dark eyes and some pigmentation, for example ghost markings. Chinchilla is sometimes mistaken for albinism, but is caused by a different mutation that affects the distribution of pigment on the hair shaft. White tigers are chinchilla. Other mutations also cause white animals; some of the animals pictured here (white peacocks) are white, but not albino. Some of the photos of white, albino and pied animals on these pages are from the early 1930s encyclopaedias "Wonders of Animal Life" (edited by J A Hammerton) and "Wonderland of Knowledge" (edited by Ernest Ogan). Some of those specimens were photographed in captivity and are now preserved in the Rothschild Zoological Museum. Up until the late 19th Century it was common practice for naturalists and explorers to shoot and preserve unusual specimens. Not till the 20th Century did photography become a practical alternative. The majority of the museum taxidermy specimens on these pages are from the Walter Rothschild Zoological Museum, Tring, England and the Natural History Museum, South Kensington, London, England.USEFUL GENETIC TERMShttp://www.messybeast.com/genetics/mutant-bigcats-terms.html

If you would like to know more about Albinism click on me and we will jump right over there.

If you would like to know more about Dogs Coat Colors click on me and we will run right over there.

If you really want to know a dogs true Origin then just click on me and we will swing on over there.

See some of our wonderful Creams here.

This is Thor's White Lightening. Owned by Michaelene He is 10 months old in this picture. 68# approx 25" Ancestry not fully checked yet to see how many CH lines in his background. But have traced back to the Phantom Bloodlines.His ancestor colors for 3 generations Back are Whites and Blacks No skin problems, and loves being outside.He loves laying on the deck in the sun. Just like my other dogs do. He can see out in the sun,has no problem bumping into things as some people would have you think
they do when he is out in the sun. He does squint some but so do I. As I am sure you do too. And if you watch all dogs closely they to will squint to some degree in the bright sun. Sun is hard on the nerves in the eye period,no matter what kind of animal you are.

Next is Athena's Snow Dream Owned by Michaelene She is 16 months old in this pic. Sister to Thor. She weighs in at 78# and approx 24" Ancestry not checked fully yet either.Phantom bloodlines. She loves it on the back deck and will be outside more than in sometimes. Her color is Cream/White as you can see in the picture.And the color has been deepening as she gets older. She is so dark Cream now I have people call her Blonde when they see her.

Next we have Cameo owned by Darlene .She is 28" 83# 40+CH lines in just her 7 generation pedigree.Just look at the golden
color.She is not white.

This is Sasha's Creamy White Zaria 15 months old. 66# owned by Michaelene She has Phantom Bloodlines from her Moms side
but have not tracked the dads side yet. But from his size the vet says German lines on her dads side. Her color is darkening and getting more of the cream tone to it as she gets older. She is just Gorgeous.

This is Isabella Lola Owned by Cherelyn

This is Divito Owned by Cherelyn. Devito is a beautiful Cream/White color.

This is Selene ll MijnSchatje Sunshine Moon owned by Michaelene She is 12 months old in this photo. Loves it outside. She was a cream color when born and not a white. As she is growing her color is getting more golden. Like a golden Lab. See pics of her on her own page. From birth to now. She was deeper in color at 16 weeks than my others at 6 months. Can't wait to see how dark she gets. She is a Beauty. She has been coat color tested by the U of C Davis.

The woman Becky that I have been dealing with calls her a Blond. They say ( " I have just sent results for our coat color testing for your samples. Our tests show Yogi's Sweet Sasha Blue is genetically dilute black as I would expect based on her blue color. Loki's Dream is dilute brown as I would expect based on his pictures on your web site. However the tests for these genes do not explain the blonde color of the others. As you can see there is no common type for your blonde dogs Our tests did not uncover the gene or genes responsible for the blonde color of your dogs. Becky")
So my babies are Blond according to her. And from another study this is what is said ("Sponenberg and Rothschild describe a gene they name I for Intense that dilutes only phaeomelanin. Diluted phaeomelanin colors are sometimes called cream, buff, apricot, lemon, etc. Such a gene, undoubtedly exists. However this gene has not yet been identified or even mapped in the dog")
This research can be found here. http://homepage.usask.ca/~schmutz/dogcolors.htm

This is Thor's Sweet Princess Jaslene owned by Cherelyn . She was bred by Michaelene. From Sasha and Thor. Watch her grow on her page. She is a beautiful Cream also.

This is Blue Moon and Heidi. Owner Patricia. There both Cream White.

This is MijnSchatje Phantom's Creamy Willow at 6 months old
Owned by Michaelene.

This is MijnSchatje Sweet Creamy Isis at 6 months
Owned by Michaelene

This is Cool, owned by Darlene Smith of Dar's Dobermans in Ohio.

To learn more about coat colors click on my colors

To learn more about Dog: The beginning click on the heart dogs

To learn more about Albinism just click on me

To see other White Animals click on the

Return home click link below.

The Animal Rescue Site is having trouble getting enough
people to click on it daily to meet their quota of getting free food
donated every day to abused and neglected animals.

It takes less than a minute to go to their site and click on the purple
box "fund food for animals" for free. This doesn't cost you a thing. Their
corporate sponsors/advertisers use the number of daily visits to donate
food to abandoned/neglected animals in exchange for advertising.

Here's the web site! Pass it along to people you know.
http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com

Video's of My Kids

mslvrfx — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:42:23 CST

On this page you will see video's of my kids. Newest video's at beginning.

Little Man playing with his Teddy Bear and Me
Little Man is Zaria's puppy. He is 19 days old and 5#

Vidar & Odin eating supper. Which is 1 cup Blue buffalo, 1 egg, 1tsp Olive Oil,
1/2 scoop Show stopper, 1 slice bread & 1cup cooked food, which has Venison, mixed vegetables, Stir fry vegetables, Calif.Blend Vegetables, Noodles, Rice, Oatmeal, Garlic Powder,
Salt, Pepper,Season salt,

Brono, Magni, & Odin playing

JW Rocks Dobermans Litterbox

mslvrfx — Mon, 02 Nov 2009 09:22:56 CST

All babies sold.
Next breeding Latter part of 2010. For my girl.

Because we care about our babies we offer Personal Door to
Door Transport in 30 eastern states. As well as Personally
Flying the pup to you as a carry on through Continental Air
or Air Tran. We do ship Continental Dog also.
For Shipping info click Link below

View pups from Michaelene

View pups from Dalene

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Some Wonderful Links

mslvrfx — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 12:53:35 CDT

On this page you will find links to other websites that tell about the Doberman Pinscher. Some with some wonderful pictures too. This page will grow as I have time to log them in. You will also find links to some sites to get medicines, clothing, And general information.

Want to check on the history of your dog? http://www.dobermann-pedigrees.com/index2.htm

The first one I would like to introduce is done by the Blitzkrieger Kennel. Wonderful site with pictures.
I really enjoyed reading this site. And seeing the pictures. Marvelous.

This link is to Dog and Kennel

This link is to Von Liphier

This link is to Advanced Canines of Svetdanhaus

This link is to Puppy for you

This link is to K-9 obedience.co.uk

This link is to Oprindelse It is in another language but has some wonderfully old pictures.

This link is to Aniwa, la vraie nature des chiens et des chats This site is also in another language but has a lot of pictures dating back to 1899.

Are you interested in Insurance for your pet? Here are some of the Pet Insurance Companies I have found
My personal preference is Pet Plan. It is the only pet insurance that covers Hereditary diseases. Overall it is
the best of the plans I have researched.

Pet Plan http://www.gopetplan.com/index.html?engine=google&keyword=gapet+insurance&match_type=&gclid=CP2isofj4p0CFQQM2godq1v94Q

VPI--http://www.petinsurance.com/affiliates/SearchIntelligence7.aspx?ec=CI0237&src=adwords&gclid=COP_54Pj4p0CFU0i2god8x5V5g

Purina Pet Care___http://www.purinacare.com/index.aspx?DCMP=KNC-CARE-Goog-2009-PCareUS&HBX_PK=pet+insurance&HBX_OU=50

ASPCA Pet Health Insurance____http://www.aspcapetinsurance.com/?utm_id=2000&gclid=CNCryYnj4p0CFYlM2godh3AM6g

Pet First Health Care ____http://www.petfirsthealthcare.com/?gclid=CO2G2Yrj4p0CFURR2godSQ5g5g

Trupanion___ https://www.trupanionpetinsurance.com/why_choose_trupanion_pet_health_insurance/quote-and-compare-companies_comparison-charts.aspx?gclid=CKmOg4zj4p0CFZQM2god0CWB5w

Links for items of interest & or some really good info sites.

If your interested in learning a bit about what the different registries are and what they cover you can go here
http://www.dachshundranch.com/AKC_vs_pet_registries.htm

This link is to Kerry Blue Terrier. It just had some really great information on it. Even tho it is not about dobermans it is a great read. I discovered a few things I did not know such as It is NOT advisable to give your dog drinking water from a garden hose. Standard vinyl garden hose has substances in it to keep the hose flexible. These chemicals, which get into the water as it goes through the hose, are not safe for humans or pets.I did not know this. Did you?

For clothing and all this is a site to check out. K 9 Top Coat. And there prices are pretty dog gone good.

Need Medicines? There are many good place's to shop. Check out Omaha Vaccine or Jeffers Pet or Doctors Foster and Smith, or 1800PetMeds just a few that I have shopped. If you have others please list them.

Have you thought about or wondered if your baby might be low on some nutrients? Natures Path Supplements website has some things for your pet that absorb quickly. As well as some other stuff for your babies. Your baby can loose electrolyte's just like you and I. I personally use gatorade. My babies like the cranberry/orange the best. And it is hard to find. I find they like the fruity flavors like punch.

NuVet is a wonderful supplement. It is an all natural supplement. Cold processed so that
you don't loose any of the value of the vitamins & supplements. I use it also.

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Check out what all it has in it and what each item will do for your baby. And if you want to talk to someone
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and give him code 98794. He is very helpful.

For Show Stopper a supplement in powder form only ,Terry at Show and Sport is very helpful.They have several things in there line to use for your pet as well. If you have a question about what to use for your pet you can call Terry and she is more than willing to answer your questions to the best of her Knowledge. And her price's are some of the best on the web that I have found. Plus she has a price match guarantee. Check her out at

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What Buyers & Sellers should beware of

mslvrfx — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 18:35:39 CDT

There are pitfalls to Buying and Selling both. This page is so that people out there will know just what can happen when they are buying or selling. Because of everyone being sue happy no one can say don't buy from a particular breeder or sell to a particular buyer by full name, even if you have had a bad experience with a particular Breeder or Buyer.Even if you have seen the abuse or problem first hand. But you can post a first or last name & photo's if you have them and give the town and state, and tell about your experience with a Breeder or Buyer as long as you do not name the Breeder or Buyer by first and last name.You can only use one or the other. You may send me any pics or documentation you have on a breeder or buyer along with a statement of what happened and I will see about getting it posted for you.
This page was created to help people stay away from Buyers & Breeders that are known thru personal experience to not take care of there animals in a proper fashion. Or have misled the buyer with false photo's and info on the puppies.

For a Breeder it is Breeders that do not do there worming's, shots, feeding a quality food to produce good puppies and not starved looking pups or sick puppies. Or live in filthy conditions in pens or cages or on chains. Breeders that are inbreeding or overbreeding. Breeders that will not stand behind the puppies they sell if they have a bone defect or disease that is diagnosed within the first 6 months of age.Breeders that misrepresent there pups for sale & or use false photo's to sell a pup. Breeders that sell sick pups.

For a Buyer it is people that mistreat there dogs, put them on chains or in pens and in general do not provide them with good living conditions. People that leave them out in the cold or heat no shelter etc...... People that use them in Puppy Mills and Brokers are also included. If you know of someone that we should be aware of please send me a note and I will post it. But make sure your info is correct.

Phenix City, Al.

Gentleman's first name Jerry
The Situation is a puppy mill Breeder. Run by a Negro. All the dogs are in cages in a back yard. I would estimate some 30+ dogs of all large breeds. Some of the *****'s looked way over bred. Thin and dull coats.The pens were on concrete,had a dog house and water bowl and that was it. The dobermans to me were very sad looking. Ribs showing. He had an Albino that should never be bred as she had a bleed thru condition.Blood oozing thru the skin like ink. They had dobermans and was the reason I visited this place. But I did not know it was puppy mill till I got there.I was appalled at the situation when I visited this place and saw the dogs. When talking to my vet about this Breeder she stated she would not talk about this person and made her opinion quite clear about his kennel.

Midway Ga.

Ladies first name: Laura
See documentation below. Below see pic of puppy advertised, supposed current pic of pup when purchased and actual picture of dog received. And vets report the following day when examined.

First picture is from ad on pup. How old does pup look? Second is picture sent that was supposed to be a current picture of him just days before he was received. And finally the actual dog that was received. Note the bloated belly,tail cut to long according to my vet. And he was 7 months old. Look like the same dog??? You decide
Upon taking this pup to Dr. Zeek in Phenix City She stated he had a yeast infection in his ears, He was wormy, had a tender stomach and to watch him for Bloat as he was a bit bloated at time of exam. His rump area was eat up with fleas not much hair left on rump.His coat was dull and he stunk. She stated that her opinion was he was a kennel dog from his looks and smell. He was given Capstar for fleas, put on vitamins, wormed with Drontal which she said was a hefty wormer and would get them all, meds given for ear infection. She Stated if we (meaning her and I) got him thru all that was wrong him him that she felt he would be a very good dog. She stated that his size at time of exam and age that he was probably out of German lines somewhere in his background. And that he would be a large dog when fully grown. Because of his condition she questioned his vet records and Upon contacting the supposed vet on the booklet the seller provided we were informed that they had never seen this pup. No vet exam, no health certificate, they had never given any shots or checked this puppy at all. Tho both things were mentioned in the ad. In trying to contact the seller the emails were never answered. Pictures of Parents that she stated she would send never arrived. 3 months after his pictures were posted on my website on msn I was contacted by a woman in Penn. She asked about the picture of him as a pup and stated to me that it was the same picture that she had received of a female pup that she bought. When we compared Pedigrees we found the pups were from the same breeder. Same sire, different Dams. But the same photo was used to sell both male and female and pups from 2 different litters. Just a couple months ago a woman in Lower Al. that I was dealing with on a white dog told me about this breeder in Midway. Warning me to stay away from any dogs coming from there. When asked why she said she had been there and it was a bad situation.She stated it was a Puppy Mill and a very bad one. She told me more but suffice it to say had I talked to her last year I would never have dealt with this breeder

Indianapolis, Indiana

Gentleman's first name is Paul.
I was going to get a couple of pups from this person till I received these pictures from and emails from 2 other buyers detailing there problems with the pups that had been bought from this particular breeder. One was for me and the other was a gift for son in law.
This supposed breeder does not worm, give shots or feed the pups what is needed to produce good quality pups.
Below are pictures sent to me by buyers of pups from this person. Along with some statements from them.
First little girl this is her upon receipt of pup. note how she is standing on the back of her feet and not up on the toes like normal. According to buyer her legs were bowed too. She has Rickets, Coccidia, So wormy it was unreal. This is some of what came out of her on first treatment. she was 4-5# at 5 weeks about half the weight she should have been. Quote from Buyer of above pup. " I was hurt and peeed off when I saw the little girl, she was dirty, skinny, has rickets, fleas and worms were eating her up. Attached is a picture of some of the worms I got from her to remind me to always take care of my pups even the smallest detail. She was supposed to have been the biggest out of the litter, well if that was the case I would have hated to seen her litter mates. She weighed 4.5 to 5 lbs when I got her at 6 weeks old on She had not received any worming nor any vaccine’s not even her first pup shot. I forgot to tell you in the other e-mail that you may have to have your pups’ tail re-docked as I have to have her tail redone. Also I hope you get your AKC papers with them because I haven’t gotten mine yet and I’ve had her going on a month on the 15th of this month"

Second Buyer of pups has stated that all the pups she bought and she bought them cause she felt sorry for them. Said they were flea ridden. Skinny beyond belief. In a living situation that was intolerable to her. This is a picture of little male Very Malnutrition-ed.Ribs showing badly,shoulder blade bones very visible. And listless looking. Vet said this puppy had Coccidia, was full of worms. Fleas were awful on pups. So far pup has been treated 3 times for Coccidia they were that bad in his little system. As well as his sisters. Pups can be brought back up from Cocidia but it stays with them for life according to my vet. Dr. BlackMar. They will get well but there bones are weakened from it. One pup developed a deformity at about 9 weeks. Seller refused to take pup back. Would not stand behind his pups. Refused to return calls. Had to keep at Paul to get the AKC papers. Finally got papers at about 9 months of age.

New Lexington, Ohio

Lady's first name Johna
This person was reported to me by a breeder that had sold her a pup.This is what was sent to me by the person that sold her the pup.

pass this name on. johna breeds her dog every heat. pups and mother always outside, no matter the weather. will tell you anything to buy a breeding pup. will even buy limit and then reg. ckc and breed the dog. she is real pissed at me right now as i won't sell to her . did once along time ago before i did breach of contracts. cried alot of nights over it. thank god the female she got from me died last week at the young age of 4yrs.

This person bred the pup on first heat. Was not in condition to have pups and lost all. Said person bred female on next heat and again lost all pups. she continued to do this. And continued to loose the pups. Female was in really bad shape. It is a blessing that she is now in heaven with god where she is loved and cared for like she should be.

Marianna, FL (or Atlanta, GA)
Marianna, FL (or Atlanta, GA) lady named Paula. Purchased an 8 wk old pup from a breeder only to return it 3 wks later "because she could not train it". Bought another pup just 6 days after returning first pup. The 2nd pup was turned over to Rescue at the age of 8 months with claims she was moving and could not take the dog with her (breeder was not offered first refusal). She is once again looking for another pup. She told the 2nd breeder she still had the dog and was looking for a companion for her. She has constantly lied to both breeders. This is NOT a good home for a Doberman. Her previous actions speak for them self. Seller Beware..... put it in your written agreement that pup must be returned to you if they cannot keep it.

Ohio
(this is a small bit that was in the email received about this woman)
Lady's name is Rosie, Buys a pup keeps it a while then gets rid of them because she has a couple older poodles. Thats always her excuse. The dobie is mean to my poodles and they are old. my girl friend told me about her. she came here once. all mine where sold. she had called me a couple times complaining about the pups she had bought and then gotten rid of. I told her to make a choice, Poodles or Dobermans.But I would not sell to her.

Anderson, South Carolina
Ladies name is Melody, I purchased a female pup from her. Upon my vet checking her found that she had cocidia the vet treated her and she is fine now. I called to let Melody know about the pups condition and could never get her on the phone. After she got her money never spoke to her again, even tho I called several times. She was always sleeping I was told.

Conway Ark.
Mrs. Nickleson was supposed to have shipped a pup to me on a specific date. Pup not received
called and got the excuse that puppy was sick. Tried contacting several times more and no
one would answer the calls. Left messages. Finally reached her and got another excuse why pup had still not been shipped.Finally got tired of the song and dance and told her I wanted my money back. She said I would have to wait till she resold the puppy. (I had paid $1000 up front. )I told her was not my fault that pup was not delivered and that I was no longer interested in her dogs. She finally agreed to send my money back. Did not get it and tried calling,no answer. Left messages Finally talked to her again got a lame excuse as to why she had not sent it. Said she would. Still have not received my money. Giving her 2 more days then Next step will be calling pay pal. After a few months and numerous calls & emails finally received my money back from this breeder. Thank God for Pay Pal.
Andy in N.H.

Anderson S.C
Breeders name W.R.Wilson Upon getting puppy it looked really bad. Upon taking puppy to vet for well puppy exam. Found that it had worms bad. Hookworms, Roundworms and Coccidia. Was not well cared for. Given meds and treatment instructions from my vet to take care of the puppy. Contacted Michaelene to see what I could do to bring the puppy up as she was very tiny and underweight according to my vet. Put her on a good diet and her meds. Had to treat second time as she was so bad. Tried many times to contact the breeder to tell her about the pups condition but she would never take my calls.
Christy in S.C.

Maplesville Al.
I received this on 7-14-2009
We bought from Miss Crumpton in Maplesville Al. I just wanted to let you know that our dog has demodectic mange,2 kinds of worms. She weighed only 4# when we got her, the vet said she was so dehydrated and skinny she didnt know if she would live. The mange cost us 40 dollars every two weeks, plus antobiotics and other charges, skin scrapes, etc, she has been dipped 4 times so far, and another dip friday, she has cleared up alot now. luckily ours was frontal mange and not whole body mange like the other pups I have spoken to four other people that bought from different litters and parents of Sheree's Dobie's and all have full demodectic mange and a couple of the pups had parvo when they were taken for their first vet visit. One girl told me that Sheree would replace the parvo pup and when they went to Sheree's house her dogs were kept in 10X10 kennels and the studs were kept on 5 ft chains, she said the dogs had been breed so much that they didnt even look like Dobies, they were skinny and tired looking. She owes us money and papers for our dog that she has never sent to us also. I know you cannot do anything about this, but i wanted to make the Dobie community aware of this lady and her predatory business practices. We will be contacting the attorney general in her city to see if charges can be brought against her, our 5 month pup has had more in medical bills than the 650.00 it cost to purchase her.
Thank you for your time
Chris Sawyer from Knoxville Tn
This photo is Sophia the night she was picked up. She was 7 weeks old and just 4#.

This photo was sent to me by a couple of people
The Person this pup came from is in South Carolina.
. Below is pup that was rescued
Capstar used for flea removal, Pancur wormer, & Albon for parasites. Shots were not up to date
at 15 weeks pup was only 24# about 10 # below weight. Was feeding Red Flannel dog food.
When looked up this is the dregs of the dregs dog food. No nutrition what so ever. DR. B. said
with proper feed and care pup should be ok.

This shows even with good intentions as I have had several emails from this person stating she was feeding her and did care. Which I cannot say she did not. But from her looks is all I can go by. If the food is not good your pup can starve. And if you can't afford the vet care for worming,shots,fleas,heartworms and anything else that comes up don't buy it. The one that suffers is the little soul for they cannot take care of them selves and they can't tell you there starving because the food your feeding is no good. Or that they have worms of fleas or coccidia or any other disease or parasite that might come along.

Below is letter From a Breeder Darlene in Ohio.
Received August 12/2009
There was this guy from cleveland Ohio,C.Groom a cop that bought a pup from me 7 yrs ago. before i did contracts. wanted a big working dog. he bought my best pup out of envy. at 6 weeks old she weighed in at 14 lbs. she only lived for 10 days in this man care. he put her outside in a kennel no food and water. maybe a dog house. but was told that she had to use the side of thegarage for shade. needless to say she died she was dead by the time he took her to the vet. anyway he stoped here yesterday , wanting to buy another pup from me.i of-course got to tell him face to face what a low down A-- hole he is. i have neaver in my life wanted to turn my dogs on a person untill yesterday. after i said my peace,told him he needed to leave as he was upsetting my dogs and not come back. what the hell is wrong with people. his name is Chris put this a__hole on the do not sell to list please.

I received this on 10-22/2009
Do not sell to this person. Maybe a scam. Never accept checks.

HELLO.This woman ..HER NAME IS CAROL SUSAN LISTER FROM MISSOURI, COULDNT GIVE ME A ADDRESS CAUSE SHE WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF MOVING. SHE DIDNOT HAVE A EMAIL ADDRESS..SHE WANTS A FULL REGISTRATION ON A FEMALE WHITE PUP, BUT DOESNOT WANT TO FILL OUT A ADOPTION APPLICATION, SHE IS AFRAID I WILL TAKE HER PERSONAL INFORMATION AND USE IT...THEN I TOLD HER SHE WILL HAVE TO SIGN A HEALTH AND SALES CONTRACT...SHE SAID NO WAY...I TOLD HER EVERYONE DOES THIS IF THEY WANT A PUPPY FROM ME. SHE SAID SHE WAS BUYING A PUP NOT ADOPTIING ONE. I TOLD HER THEY WERE OTHERS WHITE BREEDING OUT THERE, THAT WOULD LOVE TO SALE HER A PUP WITH NO ADOPTION & ETC. CAUSE THEY DONT CARE WHERE THEIR PUPS WERE GOING. AFTER SHE CARRY ON, AND REFUSE TO FILL ONE OUT. I TOLD HER I WOULD SALE HER A PUP. CAUSE I DONT FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH HER .I TOLD HER I AM SORRY SHE FELT THAT WAY. BUT DONT CALL ME AGAIN. THE CRAZY WOMAN HAS CALL TWICE AND HAS LEFT VOICE MAIL...THE NUMBERS SHE GAVE ME WERE 1-573-888-1044 WORK, THEY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF HER...THE OTHER NUMBER SHE GAVE IS 1-573-738-2679 ITS BUSY NONE STOP. BUT SHE DID CALL FROM A CELL IT IS, 1-417-827-7018...IN HER VOICE MAIL SHE SAID SHE WAS STILL SENTING A CHECK DEPOSIT, BUT WAS NOT GOING TO SIGN ANY PAPERWORK.
she said she is mailing me the check and she she is expecting a puppy from me, no matter what...by dec.1...she has call many times since the first call and is still calling and leaveing messages.

Below is a conversation from a small breeder in Missouri
Location of Bad breeder is Marble Hill Missouri. A Miss Horman raises the pups outside no
shelter. Upon visiting this breeder said dogs were in kennels and looked starving. Some puppies very
malnutritioned. This party is known for loosing a lot of pups. Has been turned in numerous times.
Selling pups that are sick and end up dying. Has had numerous complaints filed about sick and
dying pups being sold.

The following is taken from an email I received from HSUS.
Humane Society of the United States.
(More info can be found in court papers & investigation on all of the below. All links are active )
TheHSUS also foundthat several Petland stores were still buying from some of the facilities that we clearly named and exposed as part of our initial Petland investigation in November, including MAM (Mike and Melanie Moore's) Kennels in Missouri and Charlene Koster's kennel in Kansas—puppy mills where more than 100 dogs were filmed running back and forth in small wire cages. The investigation foundat least two Petland stores in Florida still buying puppies from the facilityassociated withKathy Bauck in New York Mills, Minn. Bauck was convicted of three counts of animal torture and one count of animal abuse in March 2009, the same month that the East Orlando Petland store purchased several puppies from her facility. Health certificate documents show that the Largo Florida Petland store also purchased at least one puppy from Bauck's kennel in February 2009. "We even found two stores buying from a convicted animal abuser, and others buying from individuals who have a long history of Animal Welfare Act violations, or who hold no USDA license at all. But even licensed and legal commercial kennels can still be puppy mills, where 100 or more breeding dogs have been found confined to small wire cages for life. Since the original Petland investigation was released in November, a consumer lawsuit has been filed against Petland, and more than 600 former Petland customers have contacted The HSUS to tell their heartbreaking stories.

Below are some of the Puppy Mill Breeders investigated By the HSUS and sited by the USDA
To view state by state full info on each go to http://www.stoppuppymills.org/petland_stores.html
Tracy’s K & J Pets in Missouri,
The Hunte Corporation,Missouri puppy broker
Perfect Puppies puppy broker in Iowa,
Kansas puppy broker, Lambriar Inc,
Mid-America Pet Broker, LLC animal dealer in Missouri,
massive puppy broker in Iowa, Perfect Puppies,

Kathy Bauck,(New York Mills, Minnesota): who was convicted of animal torture and cruelty in March 2009. Kathy Bauck was convicted in Minnesota of animal abuse and torture in March 2009; she was sentenced to jail. In 2008 Bauck pleaded guilty to practicing veterinary medicine without a license and in 2006 she was ordered to cease and desist from practicing veterinary medicine without a license after performing botched surgeries on animals in her kennel, as The HSUS reported in our initial Petland investigation. Bauck also has a long history of severe animal welfare violations on file with the USDA. But despite her conviction, the Baucks are still selling puppies from their facility under the husband’s name, Allan Bauck, to many pet stores across the country -- including at least two Petlands in Florida. Allan Bauck does not hold a USDA license

Charlene Koster and Mike & Melanie Moore/MAM Kennel, two puppy mills that were filmed and indentified as part of our initial Petland investigation, and multiple shipments from the facility of Kathy Bauck, who was convicted of animal torture and cruelty in March 2009 and Kris Peterson

Charlene Koster (Minneapolis, Kansas
Kris Peterson of Peterson’s Puppy Works (Hurdland, Missouri
Larry Curnett aka S & L Kennel (Willow Springs, Missouri)
large-scale commercial puppy brokers in Missouri and Minnesota that ship puppies all over the United States.
QD Kennel and Conrad’s Cuddly Canines each sell over 5,000 puppies a year and gross over $1,000,000 in sales. Heritage Puppies in Iowa
Brenda Arnett (Edwards, MO
Fletcher Creek Kennels in Minnesota
Top Notch Puppies in West Point, IA
Glynda Watson aka Watsons Puppies 4 U Inc (West Plains, MO)
Minnesota puppy broker, Menning Enterprises

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About us & What we strive for

mslvrfx — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:03:58 CDT

I have tried gathering a lot of info from different source's and bring them into one area. You will find many outside links on info that people want to know. And instead of searching site after site I have tried bringing a lot of the info to one site. So as to help those that are looking for info but don't have to time to spend searching long and hard. If I help one person I have done my job. And if you have a question that you may not find an answer to feel free to email me at mijnschatjedobermans@ctvea.net and I will try to help you.

I have had reds & blacks most of my life. Now I have Blues ,Creams(Whites) Fawn & Black. You will see a lot of negative out there on the Whites and Blues and the occasional jab at the fawn. I strive to better the breed. Especially the WZ lines (white). As I feel they are being persecuted unjustly. I do not inbreed. In my studies and talking with my vet and geneticist if you have a good background in your Whites or Creams doing a white to white breeding will not create problems. You can breed white to white if you know what color your whites are masking. I have had my Creams coat color tested by U of D Calif. They have called them Blond. There not Albino. And they state they do not know how the color has come about from there testing. Just breeding in of the colors. It only takes about 10 years to change the makeup of a breed for color, shape,size, according to studies done. In my searches and studies I have learned a lot. Some fact some fiction. But one thing I know from experience is that My Creams are just as good as any color I have owned. And I call them Cream because that is what mine are. They are not White. They are Cream color with White markings. I have not had aggression problems as some would like you to believe. I have had no skin or coat problems. And they can see just fine. All dogs squint in the bright sun. Some more than others. As do I. The bright light bothers my eyes.And I have brown eyes. Do you wear sun glass's? Get my point? Well why should we think our babies would be any different. My colored dogs even squint in the bright light to some degree. My Creams love laying in the sun on my deck. And they have never burned. There coats are just as thick or thicker than my Beloved Star and Sonja who were Red/Rust or my Beloved Bullet who was Black. There hearing is excellent. So do I see a difference in them? No I do not. They have trained just as easily as any other doberman I have raised.
This is not to say that you will not find whites or creams with problems. You will find whites that have problems if there breeding has been done wrong. By wrong I mean inbreeding and not watching what the lines and colors are like in the breeding's. They have not looked at the genetics of the dogs. Or by over breeding a female and having a weakened immune system and therefore producing a pup with a weakened immune system & or other problems. But you can also find Blacks, Reds, Fawns, & Blues that have problems just because a breeder did not think to look at what was in the background. Or to allow the female to rest between breeding's. So as to build the system back up to where it needs to be for another litter of good puppies. A breeder that cares about the dog will look at the overall. A breeder that is in it for the money will breed anything to anything. They don't care as long as they get pups to sell looking for that almighty dollar at the expense of the dog.

You will read a lot of negative about the Blues also. Yes some will have problems but most will not if there cared for right which includes the food that your feeding them, and you watch the breeding that you get them from. My Blues have no problems. They have good full coats and are beautiful dogs. I have talked with some that have hair problems, and in my research I have found that breeding has a lot to do with the coat problems as well as the food. Not just in the Blues but in the other colors as well. But we cannot blame breeding for everything. How you feed and care for your dog has a lot to do with how they will do. If you feed them just standard dry dog food there not going to get the things they need for there internal and external health. To learn more about feeding go to Dog Food, Know what your feeding your pet. And just like you or I they do need there vitamins and supplements to be there very best.

That's why I use Nu-Vet supplements

Take the fawns for example. If your not careful in your breeding of the fawns you can get dogs that have what is called Hogs hair. And just as it implies the hair is short and bristly just like a hog. You can get this by breeding fawn to fawn and white masking fawn to a fawn. From what I was told by someone that went to school and studied this area you can have 1/4 or more of your litter come out with hog hair if you breed wrong. So make sure you look at your background of the puppy you buy or if your breeding watch the background colors. Be a responsible dog owner and breeder.

If you are interested in tracking your puppies background I run across Marty she does background tracing. As well as showing her dogs. And her price's were better than most I found on the net. If you would like to contact her you can do so at RacnGal@aol.com or visit her website at www.telaria.org.

Are you really ready for that puppy??
Think ahead to what it is going to change in your life having dogs. How it is going to change your life such as traveling, & vacations. Do you know what Hotels will accept your dogs? How many will they accept? What size or kind will they accept. Not all place's will take large dogs. Do you know what your going to do with your dog ? Are you going to Board him /her or leave him/her with a friend? If he/she is going to travel with you is he/she going to be comfortable? Travel tips to help you out . If you want to get away for a weekend what are you going to do? These are all things that you need to think about before buying a puppy. If this puppy is traveling with you are you properly prepared ? Some health tips for summer Safety and other info can be found here.

Dobermans are a kind and sensitive breed, eager to please and easy to motivate. They find praise and petting an excellent reward for doing a good job. Sometimes they can be clowns. They love to run, play,wrestle, chase a ball or Frisbee. They will do just about anything you ask of them. They can entertain themselves without getting in trouble, if they have been taught what they are allowed to play with and what there not. They do well in packs, pairs or singles so long as their human family becomes part of their "pack." They will have there pecking order. You will have the Alpha dog that rules the rest of them. They are so much fun to have. You can't help but love them.They are very affectionate dogs, and will demand your personal attention if you don't volunteer it. And they can be very jealous of your time.They come to want the same things you want, and look forward to your routine. They will not be like the hound dog that just lays on the front porch bark at strangers and wags there tail. They want a job. They want to please you. They have a look to them that keeps the "bad guys" away. But they have to be trained to become a real protection dog they don't just know how. They are not mean vicious dogs by nature. But they can be trained that way.

Here you will see some of our Babies. And find lots of useful information for your Babies no matter what color you have, raise or breed. Things like your puppies first day, Tips on Training your puppy, Plants that can be poisonous to your puppy,and foods, How to detect Parvo and treat it, Distemper and more. Where you can buy medicines, vaccines and more at the best price's. And knowing your dog food and what is in it .Are you feeding them good food or fillers. And did you know you can do CPR on your pet!! Your pet can also benefit from Chiropractic care. If you have a pup that has neck or back problems they can be adjusted. If your within traveling range Dr.Stowe in Phenix City, Al. will work with your babies.
See more about Chiropractic care for your pets on the Know how to Save your Pets page

I have had numerous people ask if you can register a white or show them. Yes a white can be registered. The AKC has absolutely no problem with registering them. And as to showing. Yes you can show a white in AKC Companion events including obedience, agility, rally and tracking.Altho your going to get a lot of flack from the DPCA crowd. So you better have tuff skin if you want to show a white. I have also had people tell me that you can not show a WZ dog. Not true. You most certainly can. I specifically contacted the AKC and asked the question about showing and this is the response that I got.
Hello,
A WZ registration number does not in and of itself disqualify a dog from any competition. If the dog is of an acceptable color for conformation competition, the dog would be eligible. The judge does not review the catalog and would not be aware of the WZ number; but you may receive some input from other exhibitors who, in their opinion, find disfavor with exhibiting dogs carrying the Z factor. Dogs who are actually a disqualifying color are eligible to compete in AKC Companion events including obedience, agility, rally and tracking.
Betty Nightengale
AKC Special Services

So I hope that this helps answer a few questions about the Z factor and Registration and showing.I don't know how many times I have seen on someones site or in a blog or site that talks about dogs the words you cannot register a white. They need to get there facts straight before spouting off. If you have questions go to AKC.Org and ask. They are very swift in getting back to you. I know, I ask a lot when I can't find the info I am looking for.

Here you will also find Links, and pictures and even some info on and from other Quality Breeders. By Quality Breeders I mean Breeders that care about the Dogs and making the bloodlines better and not just doing it to make money. These Breeders are the ones that worm there pups like there supposed to , give them there shots like there supposed to, Feed them good Quality food and turn out some beautiful pups. Breeders that breed once a year and don't run there females into the ground .That have there dogs tested prior to breeding to make sure your not passing or getting any dogie disease's. Breeders that will stand behind there pups they sell. I welcome Quality Breeders. If it is found to be that you do not raise your dogs by the proper standard then you will be asked to leave or banned. This is a website to have fun learn things make friends and just enjoy yourself. No Bashing of other breeders or people will be allowed. No bashing of any colors or practice's. Each and every breeder is going to do things differently. You can ask questions but don't put someone down for what they do just because you may not agree with them. We each look at things differently. A big contention seems to be in the whites. If you don't like the whites don't join my website. Plain and simple because most all of us here have whites and love them and know for a fact what there like and what they can and can't tolerate etc... So don't come and try and tell us about our dogs. We know them a whole lot better than you do.

I do personally have whites & blues that have white to white breeding in there backgrounds. They are the most loving and gentle dogs. I have met the parents of my whites and blues and they were very well behaved and nice dogs. And you will find in most all dogs you will have line breeding to some extent. As to Champion Lines. If your dog is a WZ he will have Champions in his bloodline as the first whites came from Champion dogs. Tho they may be some years back your dog more than likely has some good champions way back there. Just food for thought for you.

I have raised Husky's, Dalmatian's, Shepard's and Dobermans in my lifetime. And Siamese cats. I bred to improve the breeds. Not just to have puppies to sell. Now I breed Dobermans only. I am not a big Breeder. Until now I had just a couple of females at a time. Now I have 5. But I still only have a couple 3 litters a year. I don't like to breed my females till the second heat ideally. But if there over a year and full size it is safe to do so if the female is in top shape. I feel no female should be bred more than once a year. Under normal circumstances. But in discussing with my vet if your female is in good shape doing a back to back is OK if you skip the next heat. As in the wild they breed each heat. And if you have a female that is prone to false pregnancy's. A back to back is recommended, then a year off. Sometimes there are exceptions and sometimes you have an oops but all in all once a year gives you better quality pups and a better momma dog. But sometimes a back to back and then a year layoff is good. It all depends on how your female is health wise. How you feed and care for them has a lot to do with whether you would do a back to back. Our Dobermans are like our children. They live in the home with us, they eat with us, and we play a lot. There are no pens or cages in my house. They have free run of the house. I do have a super large puppy area that is attached to my house also by it's own dog door. My Zues goes with me everywhere. Even to work. Thor is learning to be my go with companion. And Zaria is now in training to be my go companion too.She is over a year old.She enjoys going to work with me & Zues. They get to meet new people and new things everyday out. Our babies are raised on Holistic Food. And food that I cook for them. Because they need good food with good ingredients. Not fillers and by products. And it is cheaper to cook for your baby than to buy canned. They need there fruits and veggies just like you and I do.They need there vitamins,minerals and herbs just like you and I. Nu-Vet and Show Stopper is there supplement. They are both great it has everything they need for building a wonderful sleek & well built dog. Instead of trying to get your dog to take a bunch of pills for all the extras that they may need try an all in one powder that you can add to there food or Tabs that you give them as treats. I get my Nu-Vet tabs at Nu-Vet.com There are 2 place's that match price on ShowStopper, one is http://www.showandsport.com and the other is www.k9power.com I have had several people that I have recommended it to for skin coat problems that have gotten back to me and told me what a wonderful job it has done on there baby. Crystal in Arizona glad it helped your baby. And Nick in Mass. has said it worked wonders on his baby that had a bad skin and coat problem. Check out for many other things as well.
If you try the Nu-Vet use referral # 98794 when you place your order. Nu-Vet is slightly cheaper for those that are on a budget. But both products are just great. Nu-Vet gives you a breakdown of just whats in there supplement and what it does for your dog. Both are cold processed and natural Human grade ingredients used to make them. Nu-Vet has just a bit more in it but as I said both are good.

Our Dobermans have lovely dispositions, Great conformation, & Beautiful Coats. I do rescue so some of my babies are rescue babies but all are registered AKC. Currently I have 9 dobie children. 2 AKC Blue/Rust Yogi's Sweet Blue Zues (wz) and Yogi's Sweet Sasha Blue,(wz), 4 Beautiful ( Cream/White.) AKC Registered White Thor's White Lightening , Selene ll MijnSchatje Sunshine Moon ,Sasha's Creamy White Zaria daughter of Sasha and Loki & MijnSchatje Sweet Creamy Isis daughter of Zaria and Zues. All have Phantom bloodlines. 1 AKC Fawn/Rust (Isabella) male Loki's Dream (wz). 1 AKC Blue/Tan Sweet Dar-Keela Dream daughter of Sasha and Loki and 1 Black/Rust MijnSchatje Maximum Kimber Rose. My daughter & Son in law have a 1 AKC Blue/Rust female Babes Blue Sheba Girl (WZ) Sister to Zues and Sasha. 1 AKC registered white Athena's Snow Dream (wz) sister to Thor. Phantom Bloodlines also. And they kept 2 pups from Sheba & Clydeo's first litter,a Black/Rust female Freya the Charmed One & a Black/Tan female Blacktie the Love Bug. I hope someday to breed Cream/Whites. As you can tell from my babies I have fallen in love with the Creams. LOL>> I have researched them for about 2 years now and find that they truly are just as good as any other color. Mine are Cream color with white markings where the rust or tan markings would be and beautiful blue eyes. And there just lovely dogs.They are no different that I see than any Doberman I have ever raised.I have no skin coat problems,or any other problems with them. But that is all in how you care for your dog. Currently I am having my Creams coat color tested at University of Davis Calif. As there color is such a golden color. And I have produced a couple of very dark Cream pups. Some people like the snow white doberman but I personally love the Cream.
With the help of some wonderful breeders of whites & Colored dogs like Darlene& Ike , I am learning more each day about them. And hope to improve the whites thru breeding in good bloodlines. All our dogs are AKC registered. vWD tested. And will be OFA tested when old enough. Age varies by state for OFA testing. Our babies have the run of the house and land.They all run together there are no pens of any kind they stay in. If needed I have separate yards but as of now the gates are open between the 3 yards about an acre of land to run & play in. I do have a kennel run for when a female comes in heat. But I have my boys trained pretty well and only have to use it when I am not at home. I have trained my males to the Zone and I put a Zone on my females. put the collars on my males and they stay away from the females. It is working great. Otherwise I just close a gate and separate my boys and girls. Dobermans are a special breed of Dog.They're very smart and fast learners. Raised right they are the greatest with kids. They are so loving & loyal given the right home and conditions. And they remember things done to them or for them. They have earned a bad rep that they do not deserve. But mainly because of abuse to them and then they have turned trying to defend themselves or they have been trained to be mean and vicious. A doberman is not born vicious. Before purchasing a Doberman, ask yourself what quality of life he would have with you and your family .Do you have a fenced yard where they can run & play? Dobermans are a very high energy dog. We like to see them have a home in which they will be treated like a family member. Spend time with your Doberman, train him, take him places, let him be a part of your life & family . Learn about him/her, likes & dislikes.This is what we want for all of our puppies.A good loving home. Not a kennel or pen or chain. . If you want more info or have a question feel free to email me at mijnschatjedobermans@ctvea.net Or if you just love to talk dogs and want to chat IM me on yahoo. mslvrfx. Or msn messenger.mslvrfx@hotmail.com .My dogs are my kids. And I would do anything for them. I rescue dogs now and then and try to find loving homes for them. Not just dobermans but others too.
Don't forget.. Give your dog a hug everyday. You never know when it might be the last one.
If you want to see more pictures of My babies go to myspace. http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=19729506

Some of our past dogs can be seen at The Rainbow Bridge.

Have a blessed day one and all.

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Sasha's Creamy White Zaria

mslvrfx — Thu, 22 Oct 2009 09:40:29 CDT

Hi ya there.. My name is Zaria. And mom found out that I have Phantom bloodlines in my background on my moms side. Pretty cool. At 1 1/2 years old I weighed 67# and was 27" tall. I am my mistress's special gal. My dam is Sasha and sire is Loki. But what makes me special is that I survived Parvo. I was in hospital for 2 weeks. The vets did not have much hope for me. Said that most dogs if they did not turn around by day 6 that they usually died. But I was a fighter. My mistress says I was just a bag of bones when she brought me home from hospital. And they were still not sure I would make it. I kept loosing weight for 4 more days, could not hold any food down. My mistress gave me fluids and liquid formula every half hr to hour to keep me hydrated and going. I love her so. She was so exhausted after taking care of 5 of us that got Parvo. She lost my sister and she cried a lot for a couple of days. But now I am growing and doing well. And I am a pistol and a half. She takes me to work with her now. I get to go with Zues. I am really good at work, I mind my mistress quite well. after day 3 she took me off the lead and let me run with Zues. I come back when called and stay where I am told. She says I am a good baby. Keep check on me as she will change pictures as I grow.
Mom had me coat color tested at U of C Davis. They are doing coat color testing out there. The lady sent her the results of the testing on several of us and our parents. Becky at U of C Davis calls me a Blonde. She stated that they do not know where the Blonde color comes from as there are no common factors. I am not Albino. Which
our geneticist already had told us that. Over a 10 year period you can change colors, form, etc from breeding.
So Mom figures that all the good breeding of good colors into the lines over the past 25 years is working. And we may be a new color emerging from the breeding. But whatever our final determination is were wonderful with no coat problems, or any other problems that have been found to date. Were beautiful and loving and that's what were supposed to be.

-- 10 months old below Getting tall

20 Months. 70# almost 27" tall. And like you I hate the flash.

I get kinda dirty in the rainy season and mom has a lot of cleaning to do. Cause we really bring the mud in.
She has to clean us and the floors. And the couch covers. LOL>

I love laying between the bathroom and bedroom door.

To Veiw my pedigree look at My dams and sires. Sasha and Loki..

Below is my Little Man from my second breeding. Sire was Thor.
He is such a dark Cream.

Below is my kids from first litter mom calls it an oops litter as Zues tore the pen apart to get out to me.
It was beginning of heat . Mom does not believe in giving the pill to kill so I had 2 pups. They were huge.

Sweet Isis Mom kept me because my color was different -------------Isa-Bella Lives in Macon Ga.with Tracie

Sweet Isis at 8 weeks -----------------------------------------------------Isa Bella at 10 weeks

Isis at 4 months old ________________________________Bella at 5 months

Go visit my Mom Sasha at

Or visit my Dad Loki at

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Rescue's for Adoption

mslvrfx — Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:54:26 CDT

Hello my name is Willow. I was a paid rescue and after 2 months of loving care from mom and a great vet I am ready to go to a new home. I need someone that will love me and give me all kinds of attention. I will need someone understanding of what a rescue pup needs. Time and Love. Time to adjust to a new and loving owner.

I will come to you AKC Registered. And pedigrees can be provided upon request of parents. Contact Michaelene for adoption fee.

I was born April 7 2009. I am Cream/White, natural ears but can be cropped
by Dr. B.

At 6 months I am 44.4# and doing great.

Sweet Dar-Keela Dream

mslvrfx — Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:20:20 CDT

Hello My name is Dar-Keela, I am a Beautiful Blue/Tan

I love chasing Lizards or anything else that I find in the yard.

I was born Feb 28 2008, I have Phantom bloodlines in my background on my moms side.And German lines on my Dads. Thats part of why I am so drop dead pretty. LOL>> My mistress still has me because I was the last pup to get Parvo. And she would not sell me till she was sure I was totally recovered. When I went to my new home I was almost 5 months old. I did not like my new mistress and would not eat or have anything to do with her. I went 3 days not eating and hiding from my new mistress. Mom said she was a good lady but it was not where I wanted to be. So my Mistress drove up and picked me back up and took me home. They said I bonded to closely to my mistress and would not accept anyone else. I lost 1 1/2 #. As soon as I was back with my Mistress I was fine. LOL>> See I know how to stay with the one I love. Dobermans are like that. Some of us bond with just one person. Thats why we need to go to new homes as early as possible. My Mistress is wonderful. We get so many wonderful things. The food is fantastic. Steaks, vegetables, liver, even ice cream for dessert. Yummmmy. We all get to sleep in a nice big soft bed. Sometimes we don't leave much room for our mistress and she has to scoot us around to get in bed. She was so good to me when I come home from hospital. When she is home I follow her everywhere. I love to be cuddled. And love laying up against my mistress no matter where she is sitting. Her friend told her I am her Piewackey. LOL>> Thats like a familure. But I don't think my moms a witch. LOL> Tho she does believe in the mystries of the supernatural and all .
I was born in my mistress's computer room. And grew up in her converted bathroom to puppy room. Now I run the house. Once I got the hang of the dog door I come and go now as I please. My Mistress is working on our dog Condo as her friends call it. It has air conditioning to keep us cool in this awful summer heat. And huge rooms for us to relax in. With dog doors to come and go just like the house. Our home is so cool. We all just love it. We love playing hide and seek in it. Then pouncing on anyone that comes by the door.
We played out on the deck. Our mistress bought us a new pool and I love it.Boy I had a ball chasing the water around the deck. And in and out of the pool. My mistress was laughing and talking to me. It was good to see her laugh. She hardly ever does. She said she was having such fun playing with me. Take a look at my video .

Testamonials & References

mslvrfx — Sun, 04 Oct 2009 21:49:30 CDT

Testimonials
References & comments from Previous Buyers

From Michelle in NC

I would highly recommend purchasing a puppy from Dalene's Sheba. I have a beautiful big blue male pup of her's
who is now a year old. He is presently at 84# and approximately 26 " tall. He has a wonderful disposition and gets

along great with my other dog and my Grandbaby. He was worth the drive to Alabama to get him.

Michelle M Brahosky

mbrahosky@ec.rr.com

From Kevin in McDonough,Ga

I purchased 2 pups from Dalene & Family, From Freya the Charmed one. They are wonderful.
I am after all these years in love again wonderful pups smart and full of spirit.
I would recommend purchasing a pup from them. They are very big pups for 6 weeks.
They really love them and it shows.
Kevin Plageman. From Georgia.

From Scott in Gadsen,Al.

We are all so happy w/ Delila…. She’s seems happy on a pallet at my feet, under my desk, during work and the kids stop and get her
at 3. She wakes Hunter up at daybreak by attacking his hair… Thanks again, Skipper family. Gadsen, Al.

The following Testimonial is from a Veternarian's Son, in Dix Hills NY.

My name is Mitch and I live in Long Island New York. We recently purchased a puppy from Dalene & Michaelene. As the son of a veternarian and a lover for dobies, never in my life have I met a lady that superseded my love . Not only do I have a sweet, loving nugget , but Michaelene was the epitome of a pleasure to deal with. She was accommodating and very caring until i received my pup . I actually did not think she would give her to me until the pup was comfortable with me . Within an hour I got my baby, Thanks Michaelene , there should be more people like you.
And you can always email her for questions after your baby comes home.
Mitch from new york,

From Al in Enterprise Al.

Dear Michaelene & Dalene

Al Guzman

From Gary in Suwanee Ga.

Gary

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